If anything is mentioned on the day of the meetings, the first company is told that 'Unfortunately when we talked they were aready booked'. The meeting in reality is about 3 if you are lucky. On the day the sales agents run around trying to fix up any meeting with anybdy. In other words, a complete waste of time. Business from these meetings is scarce.
If they dn't. Look at the IBDG website. There is no accreditation from any company. They are invited for free under false pentenses of a topic they might be interested in, a free lunch, etc. I was once witnes to one f their managers falsifying a 'Green Agenda' to get a sale. Complaints would be dealt ith on th day. Lest you think this be a new member of staff, this as someone who was the Company Director's right hand woman and had been there five years.
Employers' Insurance was not considered necessary. Their details were reported to the DTI. They have gone through two Sales Directors in two years. Should the Company Director of IBDG see this a paranoid, volatile man and wish to dispute this under a psuedonym as his is usual practise all the above is documented. Those hand sized recorders come in handy for things other than taping calls. Avoid this company whether you are a prostective employee or a prospective advertiser like the plague.
The organisation is nothing short of shambolic. The MD is too tight with his money to invest in quality software to ensure the matching process actually works. What you are left with is what is known as blagging on the phone, i. Coupled with some very smooth talkers than you have some semblance of a business.
I am suprised the company is still operating. The whole operation is based on a premise of lie to the delegates to attend, lie to prospects by telling them the directors are interested in your services and then hope for the best at the event. It is all about lying on the phone and by speaking to enough people, you will eventually smooth talk a mug punter.
There is no planning, direction or training for staff just a bucket shop with people who believe they are joining a quality company. They realise their mistake very quickly and the turnover is nothing short of shocking.
The MD if you can call him that is nothing short of a shyster. Yes, I totally agree with formers comments. I used to work there too. It is their recruitment arm, although I don't know if they recruit for any other companies.
They do illegally record calls, and bullshit a lot on the phone. You are epxected to get past the gatekeeper, and speak to the highest person in every company. If you don;t pitch the CEO of the firm, and happen to pitch the Marketing Director for example, it doesn;t count.
Maybe after all this time, they have turned a corner and are in fact a truthful, factual, prosperous company that looks after its staff. In response to this thread, IBDG have released a semi literate and ill conceived piece of PR on a couple of websites stating how wonderful they are.
This being when the country's GDP is only 0. Mal Donnelly has obviously hit upon a winning formula and surely is more deserving of the position of Business Czar than the current encumbent Sir Alan Sugar. After all, he is more used to saying 'You're fired' than Sir Alan. In fact, I have posted this thread and Mr Donnelly's PR to the offices of the Prime Minsiter, David Cameron and Nick Clegg who I met recently through a different matter suggesting not quite that but that something along the lines of 'Please look at this'.
I suppose I should tell you a little about myself: I have over 10 years experience in the new technlogy marketplace, starting a seat call centre from scratch including customer service and sales training and was awarded 'Investor In People' in the first year; a feat which only a third of businesses achieve.
The company grew and attracted the interest of one of those Russian oligarchs and the structure and atmosphere inevitably changed. The company was eventually sold and I was the proverbial 'last man out' who switched off my lights. I looked for another challenge and fell for IBDG's lies. I also confess to having a Lone Ranger syndrome. I would hate other people to be taken in as were I and my colleagues on this thread.
The release states the London office has grown by 50 staff in and has plans to tak on a further 75 in That office is not big enough to accommoate more than 40 staff.
So let's say there was a base level of 30 staff when these new ones joined, not only will they be packed in there so tight they would be looking at sardines enviously, I would sggest they would be exceeding the levels of their insurance.
As I mentioned previously, it is also a fact that IBDG did not see fit to have any employer insurance. Indeed, a varifiable fact rare when you're talking about IBDG is that they failed the local council health and safety check, not only due to the stateof the office which has all the charm of a public urinal , its lack of insurance and its sickness policy.
By the way, those self same numbers of 'new staff' were quoted to me at my interview four years ago. Exact same numbers, exact same nerw overseas offices. I guess some things do not change. Of course, Mal does not say how many of those new staff have since been fired. I would suggest that any company who is onsidering taking part in one of their seminars or any employee thinking about joining, check with the council.
In the release Mal Donnelly quotes a number of blue chip companies who have used IBDG by way of proof of the company's professionalism. Notice he does not distinguish if these companies were delegates or sponsors. We have already spoken on this thread about the duplicitous ways they attract sponsors.
Do these companies know their reputation is being used so cavalierly to prop up what amounts to an illegal sweat shop? I would suggest that companies of this calibre have a responsability to their workers but also their agents and people who use their name. Any company considering attending as a delegae or sponsor should do due dilgence.
I am sure we ex employees are being branded as 'a few malcontents'. The reason why there are so few here is because of the IBDG contract. As I did not sihgn it, I feel no need to keep it private. Indeed, my solicitor took one look at same and said 'it is asking you to sign away your basic human rights'.
For example, 'Normal hours of work will be from Monday to Friday 9. As I said earlier, IBDG refused - despite me quoting this contract twice in leters to thm - to pay me holiday I had accrued. They said they 'had not received my letters'. Funny, they did receive the Employment Tribunal's letter that followed.
Again from the contract 'On the first day of any absence due to sickness or injury, the employee must inform Mal Donnelly by 9am Also 'The Company reserves the right to dismiss an Employee during sickness absence regardless of continued entitlements to statutory sick pay. Under 'Confidentiality' it states 'It is an express condition of this agreement that, at all times both during and after th termination of Employee's employment , the Employee shall keep secrets of the Company, and shall not divulge or make known to anyone whomsoever, or use for the benefit of anyone other tha the Company any of the secrets of the Company or any information of a confidential nature relating in any way to the Company's databases, he Company's products and services.
Client or supplier lists, finances or personal information relating to tjhe Company or supplier, Director or Employee of the Company. Al;so 'The Company does not recognize any trade union and so there are no collective agreements in place to the Employee's emplyment, nor are there any work plave agreements'. This is from a company that held a seminar recently called 'Retaining and Development Talented Key People'. Hypocracy is the least of IBDG's crimes.
I asked arlier if those blue chip companies knew of all this; they do now. I don't normally comment on petty discussion groups like this, but all of the above is pretty unfair and completely one sided I'm actually surprised the moderators let it stay! I work at IBDG and yeah, there's a high turn-over of staff, but those people cant cut it. This environment will suit only the most talented individuals and those DO succeed.
The people we sell to are experienced professionals who do their own due diligence and are not spending their own money but marketing budget designated for generating sales. For your information we have now moved office and have full insurance and can more than accommodate projected growth. Any previous issues were an over-sight and dealt with swiftly by the company lawyer who did a full audit and implemented changes.
There are plenty of successful and happy people at IBDG. I would say this demonstrates IBDG invests in training and developing its staff as well as improving the already exceptional product! Well well, it must be Mal replying.
Lets have a closer look at the above response. This environment will suit only the most talented individuals ". Talented individuals, do you mean people who can fabricate over the phone. That is what I was told to do. Rewards are high, when I was an employee, three or four longserving members were doing ok. The rest were scratching a living. I recall having to provide references and struggling on numerous occasions, even though the business had been trading for five years and had signed up hundreds of clients.
No exageration. IBDG treat their clients with respect. I certainly did not, I had to lie to get a deal and then face the clients wrath at the event. The only saving grace for IBDG at the event is that the account handlers work like crazy to arrange additional meetings.
I am sure without this process there would be a higher number of complaints from clients. Companies do have limited success, but what the salesman presents is way of the mark in terms of targetting.
Lets face it if it was so successful, why do IBDG have to cold call so aggressively? Why are companies not calling IBDG if it so successful? Also qualified meetings is surely worth more than k. I have never witnessed people being treated so unproffesionaly in my 30 odd years. Truly disgusting, the MD has no loyalty to anyone. One of Mal's closet colleagues, had a baby and was then denied her job.
It would be interesting to find out how many people have taken IBDG to a tribunal. IBDG now has employee insurance, well done.
What do you want a certificate for complying with the law. This demonstrates that IBDG invests in staff. Well they obviously have not invested in you as you would know, you are making no sense. If you are seduced into working with them. I suggest you ask for succesful case studies from satisfied customers.
The last two years have seen the most challenging business environment that has been seen in this country in living memory. The start of the period coincided with a reorganisation of sales management in London under a new management team who initiated a new performance management programme. At the same time a number of senior sales staff were recruited whose task was to grow the business rapidly. These staff were drawn from a wide range of backgrounds, all of which were strongly sales orientated, as is our business.
Unfortunately, not all of them proved as readily adaptable as we and they had hoped to the new environment they found themselves in and this, together with the economic background, meant that a number of them subsequently left the company. Following their departures, the IBDG business has grown successfully. We make no apologies for being a business that is ambitious, that seeks to achieve much and likes to work with people who have similar aspirations. We are sorry for those ex-employees who did not enjoy their experience with us.
While the period we went through together was undoubtedly difficult and painful for some, it was exhilarating and satisfying for many others. We wish those who have left us well in the new career that they have chosen. I am also a former employee of IBDG. Spin and lies were commonplace during my experience there. This is why the last statement posted here means absolutely nothing to me.
It sounds great to the reader who doesn't know the organisation, but there's nothing behind it at all. When I questioned the lies I was told to relay to potential clients on the phone, I was told by my sales manager that's just called being 'clever' in this industry. That being said, the client satisfaction ratio during the several events I attended was about 1 happy to 6 unsatisfied and even livid. The event was successful for some occasionally but it was usually due to the persistence of the client or the rep that was taking care of them on the day of the event.
This type of company is the perfect example of who I wouldn't want to be associated with, ever again. Well, well. You go on holidayy for a couple of weeks and all sorts of people start hanging around here.
Firstly, let me congratulate Former Truth and Marshall Scott. They give a very accurate picture of what it is like to be in the middle of IBDG. Secondlly, I agree with Marshall Scott. Looking at Mal's post first His line that 'Yeah, there's a high number of staff turnover but those people can't cut it'.
That's the CEO, folks. Just they 'couldn't hack it'. Let me add another category in there, Mal. Sales is not a job one has to be ashamed of anymore. It is respectacle occupation because the majority of companies sell with ethics and integrity. Not the way IBDG does it. It is true, as Former Truth and Marsahall Scott said, that on the day of the event any success is more than down to the hard work of the staff.
Mal prowls the hotel like a cat and screams a you if one of the sponsors is sitting there without an appopintment. When you point out they weren't scheduled one, he will just say 'Find one'. In situations matic recovery in recent years, also in human-domi- where natural population sizes remain small through nated landscapes Chapron et al.
However, due extended periods of time, careful monitoring is crucial. While it seems isolated, which is expected to negatively affect their that purging in most cases is not efficient in small pop- ulations Hedrick ; Wang ; Boakes et al. This is an open access article under the terms of the Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivs License, which permits use and distribution in any medium, provided the original work is properly cited, the use is non-commercial and no modifications or adaptations are made.
A population fitness Madsen et al. Annual numbers of wolves never exceeded 10 immigration and from human-assisted outcrossing individuals until , when a new immigrant male attempts. Still, the use of genetic recue as a conservation wolf arrived and mated with a female from the founder strategy is limited, not least due to the associated eco- family Wabakken et al.
Frankham However, after The return of the grey wolf Canis lupus to the Scan- a few years the average inbreeding started to increase dinavian Peninsula by a few founders with episodic again and by , it had reached 0. Inbreeding depression was documented from nation with the reconstruction of a near-complete pedi- reduced litter size of highly inbred individuals Liberg gree Liberg et al.
Two decades after the spe- et al. During the duced successfully for three consecutive years — s, the whole population comprised just this pair During these three years, the yearly number of and its descendants within one single territory Wabak- packs groups was 28—31 and the estimated population ken et al.
The founding pair size increased from about to Here, we compare Fig. Ellipses are females, rectangles are males, and diamonds repre- sent litters where no offspring has yet entered the breeding population.
The pedi- gree also contains the identity numbers of the 28 wolves Table S3, Supporting information included in the 14 target pairs. The comparability of and their offspring, produced during the same three microsatellite scores between the two laboratories was years. To account for possible environmental variation, assured when both laboratory-genotyped samples taken all 12 pairs selected started to breed the same year as at the same time from individuals that was caught for the two migrants.
Samples for microsatellite analyses were derived both from dead and live-captured radiocollared wolves Materials and methods Sand et al. During tracking, number of tions. The confirmation of a scent-marking pair or cipitation and separation in 20 lL sodium acetate 3M family group i.
The precipitate was solved in an area was made from at least three tracking events 20— lL distilled water. In some cases, multiplex optimiza- unless proven otherwise from, for example, DNA anal- tions were unsuccessful, and PCR amplifications were ysis.
Biological material e. Qia- rated from other scent-marking individuals and pups gen HotStar DNA polymerase, adding up to 10 lL with in neighbouring territories. The monitoring was per- distilled water.
For identification and parentage analysis, we used Noninvasive samples were replicated four times to between 19 and 36 microsatellite markers specified in account for the occurrence of allelic dropout and false Table S1 Supporting information. The markers used alleles Taberlet et al. We constructed consensus depended on the year of analysis where more markers genotypes from the replicated PCR runs using the were used from and onwards in order to increase threshold rule that alleles had to appear at least twice information content and to increase the comparability for a heterozygous genotype and three times for a between analysis made by Swedish and Norwegian homozygous genotype.
A DNA contamination were omitted from further whether mismatching markers could be explained by analysis. The average PIDsib for all samples that In total, samples collected between 1 May had matching genotypes and was offspring in one of and 2 December were analysed. These consisted of the 14 study pairs see below was on average noninvasive samples and invasive samples 5 9 10 4 and ranged between 8 9 10 12 and 3 9 10 2. Matching genotypes were combined to one consensus Genotypes consisting of at least 10 genetic markers genotype used for further analysis.
For more details, could be produced for samples and qualified to be including consensus genotypes and PIDsib values, see analysed further. The probability of genotype Jost , see the detailed discussion of these mea- identity, given parental genotypes, varied between sures by Meirmans and Hedrick Calculations 6 9 10 14 and 5 9 10 4 median 9 9 10 Territorial As references, we used the same 92 Scandinavian and pairs were confirmed from snow tracking conducted 64 Finnish wolves, 34 domestic dogs consisting of within the joint Swedish-Norwegian wolf monitoring both purebred dogs and mixed breeds and 19 red programme Wabakken et al.
The parentage of foxes. A first assignment run was made with the two individuals was determined by genetic exclusion wolf populations pooled. A second assignment run, with the two simulation based on allele frequencies from the Scandi- wolf populations used as separate references, was navian population with the purpose to estimate the made with the remaining samples to detect first- critical values of the difference in log-likelihood LOD generation migrants.
For samples that assigned with the Scandinavian wolf Moreover, we assumed PIDsib was calculated in to be mistyped. Removing legally killed wolves left a data which could not be explained by allelic dropout. In the final data set, the distribution the inbreeding coefficient using CFC v1. For more detailed description of the recon- and immigrant offspring were 78 vs. Successful breeding was confirmed when off- may be stronger correlated with fitness than pedigree- spring was identified and parentage confirmed.
Pairing based inbreeding e. Hansson et al. Moreover, after recent paired or nonpaired and breeding or nonbreeding, founder events or strong bottlenecks pedigree-based respectively.
In addition, two wolves died complemented the study by also using standardized accidently shortly after being released from capture and multilocus heterozygosity stMLH ,, that is the propor- anaesthesia hereafter referred to as legally killed. We repeated the analyses by includ- To test whether the inbreeding coefficient f and ing the legally killed wolves and found that these did stMLH predicted the probability of pairing success and not affect the final conclusions of the study see breeding success, respectively, we used a generalized Appendix S1, Supporting information.
To avoid results being biased by early likelihood. Natal observation i. The reason for this is that animals, spring i. To account for unequal offspring sample size between parental pairs, we used parental pair as a random factor. The main Statistical analysis conclusions of the study did not change when models We identified a total of offspring to the 14 pairs were run without parental pair as a random factor and which started to breed in One more pair started the effect of inbreeding changed only slightly see to breed , but was excluded from the study as no Appendix S1, Supporting information.
After ranking model i in relation assigned to the offspring. A were reported together with the number of parameters of the annual potential finite rate of population growth K.
We used wi to scale the parameter estimates from the most parsimo- where Nt is the total population size at year t and Ht? All models and after — the immigration event, using a one- with f and stMLH as predictors were therefore run sep- tailed t-test two-sample, equal variance based on loga- arately. The remaining were We calculated the annual finite rate of population offspring of the 12 native, severely inbred pairs growth k from through based on annual 0. Pairing and breeding success for off- estimates of population size adjusted for the number of spring to immigrants was considerably higher com- wolves legally harvested each year.
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